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Returning after a long time.

Post by bnam2 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:05 am

Hi!
I used to be active on this forum until 2006 when I sold the last of my Fiat Spiders. Since then I've not owned any Fiats. But, I just picked up a nice 1500 Cabriolet (with a 1600 DOHC engine in it). I'm not too familiar with these cars, but love the look.
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Post by bartigue » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:08 am

Welcome back

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Post by bnam2 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:14 am

Thanks Brad!

We moved from Calif to Bangalore India 3years ago (got out of big corporate to do a small startup). I've picked up the car here.

Car has a DOHC engine from a 125S -- that would make it a 1608 I think. I need to figure out how to confirm that. The car was restored a couple of years ago by a person who maintains a 300+ car collection for a collector (has full shop including paint booth etc). Very knowledgeable old racer. But, these engines were never officially imported here. Fiat 1100Ds were common until the 90s. DOHC parts will need to be imported.

I'm currently also restoring a 65 Karmann Ghia and have a fully restored 71 VW vert here.

My old 81 Spider. Sold to a buddy in Sacramento. (hope to buy it back some time)
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Post by bartigue » Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:33 am

Wonderful pictures. The 1500 was a real nice design. If you want to confirm the engine look near the oil filter housing for a stamping, it will say something like 125BCxxxxxxx
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Post by cjwaters » Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:40 pm

Byas,

The 1500 looks great! That's the best one I've seen outside of maybe a Concourso Italiano show entry. Please share some photos of the engine bay and interior when you have time. Welcome back to the forum!
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Post by bnam2 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:40 pm

Some more pics...
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Post by bnam2 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:43 pm

The engine builder says I need to source a replacement good used head and cams for this engine as the head was corroded and had to be welded/builtup etc.

Any suggestions on where I can get a good used 1608 head and cams?

Thanks

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Post by fp55scca » Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:26 am

bnam2 wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:43 pm
The engine builder says I need to source a replacement good used head and cams for this engine as the head was corroded and had to be welded/builtup etc.
Any suggestions on where I can get a good used 1608 head and cams?
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--Byas, just to be certain, you might want to check the casting numbers on your block and head. A 1608 block should have a casting on the driver's side of the block that says "125BC 040".

--The head casting numbers will be located between the #2 and #3 plugs, and for a 1608 should reflect 124AC000 plus a 7 digit number most likely beginning with "423". If your head casting reflects only "124AC" and the 7 digit number begins with "41" you may have a 1438cc head. I had thought that all of the 1608 series had cam-mounted distributors, but maybe the early ones from the Fiat 125 had block mounted distributors. Your cambox has no provision for the distributor.

--I have 1608 heads and cams, but you can likely find something closer to you.
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Post by bnam2 » Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:23 pm

Guys, thanks for reiterating -- look at the head. Well, this is what it has as markings... No 124AC marking.. Just this...
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What head could this be?

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Post by andy » Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:09 pm

The part number (4301155) turns up in a search on Guy Crofts site.

It could be this:
an 1800 Fiat 124 Spider Abarth Rallye (or CSA) 8v head . The same version was aslo fitted to Lancia Beta Abarth.,
http://www.guy-croft.com/viewtopic.php?t=410
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