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Re: Gates Timing Belt T068

Post by ramzi » Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:23 pm

Hmmm thats odd

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Re: Gates Timing Belt T068

Post by vandor » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:58 am

fastfiat81 wrote:
Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:00 pm
So Gates is selling timing belts in their "Gates boxes" that are not manufactured by Gates themselves. Interesting.

Guess I will try Dayco next.
I don't really understand why. Do you know of a brand of 'bad' belts? A brand of belts that breaks? Me neither.
Any large corporation like Good Year, Flennor, Dayco, etc. will make sure that the products they sell are high quality. Whether the belt was made in the US or UK will should have no affect on its quality.
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Re: Gates Timing Belt T068

Post by mamsterla » Thu Jan 25, 2018 2:23 am

Do you know if the wider belts are available for the 1438cc motors?
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Re: Gates Timing Belt T068

Post by rridge » Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:55 am

I don't disagree that the quality of available timing belts regardless of the package they come in seems to be adequate. The real problem with timing belts seems to be age. All rubber products are subject to aging and embrittlement even as they sit on the shelf. That's why we replace ten year belts even if they do have only 10 or 20k miles on them. Many of us probably own new belts that have been in our personal inventories for that long and who knows how long they sat on a shelf before purchase.

I've got to believe that timing belt makers code their products for age. I've got to believe that vendors know how to read those date codes to avoid selling product that has passed its shelf life. Many owners would like to know how to spot timing belts that are too old to be safely used.
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Re: Gates Timing Belt T068

Post by bartigue » Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:34 pm

I have pirelli belts probably made in the 1970s that I use. There is no apparent degradation. Shelf life and life inside an engine compartment, or outside, are very different things. I change timing belts on any FIAT I receive because, with few exceptions, I expect the P.O. to have never done it.
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Re: Gates Timing Belt T068

Post by bartigue » Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:54 pm

mamsterla wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2018 2:23 am
Do you know if the wider belts are available for the 1438cc motors?
They used to be; they serve no purpose other than to cost more than the shorter belts. Plus, when they wander (and they all do) the edges wear faster than a normal belt.
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Re: Gates Timing Belt T068

Post by fastfiat81 » Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:45 pm

vandor wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:58 am
fastfiat81 wrote:
Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:00 pm
So Gates is selling timing belts in their "Gates boxes" that are not manufactured by Gates themselves. Interesting.

Guess I will try Dayco next.
I don't really understand why. Do you know of a brand of 'bad' belts? A brand of belts that breaks? Me neither.
Any large corporation like Good Year, Flennor, Dayco, etc. will make sure that the products they sell are high quality. Whether the belt was made in the US or UK will should have no affect on its quality.
It's personal preference Csaba. Nothing more. I grew up with gates and dayco. Its just that simple. I never said that any belt was 'bad'. Or who does or doesn't sell them.
It's my choice to buy any brand that I want.
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Re: Gates Timing Belt T068

Post by fastfiat81 » Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:54 pm

As a side note Gates did tell me the numbers on the belt are date codes. Also the last couple of letters signify which plant the belt was made. There are four plants. Two in the US and two in the UK. What Gates didn't tell me was how to decipher the date code or plant code.
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Re: Gates Timing Belt T068

Post by vandor » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:25 am

rridge wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:55 am
Many of us probably own new belts that have been in our personal inventories for that long and who knows how long they sat on a shelf before purchase.
A new belt is $16-17. If you are concerned, then get a new one. Certainly it's a small enough price to pay for the pace of mind if there is any concern at all.
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Re: Gates Timing Belt T068

Post by mamsterla » Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:20 am

Thanks for letting me know. I just updated my belt (with the normal width one), so I will keep this in mind for the next one.
bartigue wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:54 pm
mamsterla wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2018 2:23 am
Do you know if the wider belts are available for the 1438cc motors?
They used to be; they serve no purpose other than to cost more than the shorter belts. Plus, when they wander (and they all do) the edges wear faster than a normal belt.
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