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Wanted: FIAT Parts Computer... on loan!

Post by atruscott » Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:27 pm

Hi All -

Does anyone happen to have a FIAT Parts Computer from “the day” sitting around somewhere. I’m not to concerned if it’s working or not - just having the Hard Disc intact would be fine.

This would be a loan, and you would get it back (by return one week after receipt).

Thanks!

Andy
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Re: Wanted: FIAT Parts Computer... on loan!

Post by jgoodfellow » Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:53 am

Ummmm... dumb question time.

What Ed Zackerly do you mean by FIAT Parts Computer? A Computer that came from a FIAT Dealer, from back in the dark ages when such things actually existed?

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Re: Wanted: FIAT Parts Computer... on loan!

Post by atruscott » Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:55 am

Yep... the computer that sat on the parts counter....
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Re: Wanted: FIAT Parts Computer... on loan!

Post by abarth » Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:41 pm

We had no parts computer at the Fiat dealership I worked at in the 70's, only parts books and micro fiche.

I preferred the books and bought them for my 1971 Spider when I bought it. Both body and mechanical. They were cheap and well worth it when I worked on the car. Lists of superseded parts numbers were in it but of course, never complete.

What parts computer are you thinking of? PC's were not around then.

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Re: Wanted: FIAT Parts Computer... on loan!

Post by atruscott » Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:56 pm

I *think* that in the 80s there was a 8086 based one that was used by some dealers (I suspect that not all of them had it)...?
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Re: Wanted: FIAT Parts Computer... on loan!

Post by bartigue » Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:13 pm

Bruce had one, I saw it when visiting in about 2005. It was an ibm xt or at- I never got close enough to it to see. It wasn’t working that I could tell.
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Re: Wanted: FIAT Parts Computer... on loan!

Post by atruscott » Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:22 pm

Doesn't need to be working!!!
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Re: Wanted: FIAT Parts Computer... on loan!

Post by abarth » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:40 pm

What do you expect to find on the hard drive that would be useful?

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Re: Wanted: FIAT Parts Computer... on loan!

Post by bartigue » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:58 am

They are alleged to have the parts supersession. I doubt they do a correlation between vin, spares number, and chassis to show you a parts list for a specific vehicle (given the storage limitations at the time). But if they do then bonus.
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Re: Wanted: FIAT Parts Computer... on loan!

Post by rridge » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:12 am

A Fiat North America parts "computer" must have some sort of word processor that could do limited searching, sorting, and printout. Hard drive? I doubt it. Until the first IBM PC's became available in 1981 hard drives were large and expensive pieces of equipment that you'd find with a DEC or Data General engineering computer, not the sort of hardware a Fiat dealership was likely to own. Most desktop word processors and micro computer systems of the late 70's and early 80's used floppies or cassette storage. Both had limits on the life of the magnetic media.

Good word processors with large floppy drives from outfits like Wang and Lanier had enough processing capacity to search inventory and price lists and print parts orders and invoices. Some of those floppy drives were quite large physically. Unfortunately word processors of the period ran on proprietary software. The arrival of modern PC's quickly made them obsolete. I think Chris Obert made the right IT decision for managing Fiat parts. Punched cards and a dot matrix printer is the classic approach.
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