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Re: The, uh FCA Heritage thing

Post by sams » Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:41 pm

cgranju wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 6:54 pm

On the other hand, I wonder if this could be a good thing for some of our vendors.
Yes, I would be very interested to hear what the vendors think about this.

I can't imagine what FCA is going to bring to the table that our vendors (both here and in Europe) haven't already accomplished.
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Re: The, uh FCA Heritage thing

Post by cgranju » Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:15 pm

I would imaging FCA would be scrambling to get the correct parts from them. I don't know....actually, I suppose I could imagine a lot of ways it could develop, some good, some not. I still like $2500 Fiat 124 Spiders.....
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Re: The, uh FCA Heritage thing

Post by PhillySpider » Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:38 am

No front air damn on the spidereuropa? I don't know this will bring any additional value to our cars, perhaps similar to roadster salon...$50K spiders are out there already.
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Re: The, uh FCA Heritage thing

Post by friedman » Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:05 pm

Hell, I'd sell my 80 spider with the decimal on the price moved over one point and include a factory spoiler....but no bumpers of course.
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Re: The, uh FCA Heritage thing

Post by cstorry » Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:51 pm

Of course not all "vintage" Fiats are cheap models.

Is some of the motivation to address the much higher priced European market.

Have you seen the price of spiders in Europe, particularly the Pininfarina years ?

The of course there is the volumex spider models, nothing less than 40K euros these days

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Re: The, uh FCA Heritage thing

Post by davedecker4 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:05 pm

Absolutely. That's why they chose the euro version of the spider, with its spidereuropa moniker and side marker lights.
I am sure that a company as large as FCA does not plan to get rich just by doing a couple high end restorations on some of its classics. At best it pays for a couple parts runs for things that have become obscure.
Its just a way to build prestige, give some market and authority to its classics
and thus bring up brand name quality and reputation overall.
Which helps sell new cars too.

I'm sure they would have let Brad finish the underhood and interior detailing when they pulled this out of the back of the museum storage room, had he insisted before they snapped a couple pics. If anything the driver status of this car indicates the need for such a program.

Expanded parts availability?....wow.
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Re: The, uh FCA Heritage thing

Post by mmudge » Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:13 pm

probably the leading examples of the Spider 2000's would be the everlasting 1979's, like mine. ;) They ran like [expletive] and more often then not, were shoved to the back of the garage awaiting salvation. So if FCA wants seriously nice 124 Spiders I would recommend the lowly '79.

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Re: The, uh FCA Heritage thing

Post by bartigue » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:08 pm

It is kind of funny to think the people who screwed up the assembly in the first place will be responsible for trying it again.
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Re: The, uh FCA Heritage thing

Post by cgranju » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:56 pm

Well, I should clarify that despite my love of nice, cool, but pretty inexpensive Fiats (i still choke at the idea of referring to ours as "classics" vs "new"...like the Range Rover suddenly became the Range Rover Classic), i don't at all think of them as all inexpensive nor that they should be. I tend to cast disparaging remarks, mostly aimed at the rather ridiculous trajectory the company itself took (particularly with respect to the US market) despite turning out interesting, soulful, fun to drive and rewarding to own cars. So, when that company, reborn, rebooted, endeavors to build heritage cars, no offense if i spit a little coffee out of my nose. I'd rather ha s one that was owned, maintained, or restored out of love by one of the try experts here, than one done with such purchased pomp. But hey, that's just me...
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Re: The, uh FCA Heritage thing

Post by bartigue » Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:40 pm

I agree that there is something wrong with having had no skin in the game (or on the firewall) and just buying a restored car. That’s what “classic car ownership” is to a lot of people though.

Of course even those people know what model year their cars are, unlike fca.
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