1981 124 Spider with Pininfarina hardtop.

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Re: 1981 124 Spider with Pininfarina hardtop.

Post by SimcaBertone66 » Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:25 am

Thank you for fixing it Bradley …. again, a well turned out car ….. the Pinnin top and Recaros set the car on a different order of cool ….
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Re: 1981 124 Spider with Pininfarina hardtop.

Post by mikehynes » Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:07 am

Is the convertible top still installed? Is it possible to install the hardtop and still have the convertible top in place beneath it?
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Re: 1981 124 Spider with Pininfarina hardtop.

Post by Bedilion » Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:07 am

Hi Mike,
I bought the car without a convertible top assembly, but with the Pini top.
I have acquired a late model convertible top assembly that goes with the car.
Yes, the convertible top when folded down will allow the Pini top to be put on.
This car had been stored in a garage for 12 years with a bad clutch before I bought it.
Any questions, just ask away. Steve B.
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Re: 1981 124 Spider with Pininfarina hardtop.

Post by fp55scca » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:06 am

Bedilion wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:07 am
---I have acquired a late model convertible top assembly that goes with the car.
---Yes, the convertible top when folded down will allow the Pini top to be put on.
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--Hi Steve. I really like your '81 Spider....I think you've done an excellent job with it!

--Question: I've had a Pininfarina top for about 18 years now. I've had it installed on early Spiders ('71, '72 and a '74) and now it's on an '81 Spider. I've never been able to install one with the convertible top in place and still achieve a proper seal around the base of the Pininfarina top? Is this something that you have already done, or are you just speculating that it can be done? The CSA was not produced with a rag-top.
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Re: 1981 124 Spider with Pininfarina hardtop.

Post by Bedilion » Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:06 pm

Hmmm. I was wondering about that.
I do not have a folding top installed on the car, but I have one that will go along with the sale.
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Re: 1981 124 Spider with Pininfarina hardtop.

Post by fp55scca » Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:53 pm

--Steve, if you look at your #4 picture, (with the passenger seat folded forward), you can see a black section of the hardtop (directly under the rear window) that comes down and nearly touches the top the backrest of the rear seat. This is primarily where the Pininfarina top interferes with the folded soft top. There is also interference on the sides as well, beside the soft top quarter windows. In some instances, I have removed the chrome trim/wiper strip beside the quarter windows to get a better seal.
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Re: 1981 124 Spider with Pininfarina hardtop.

Post by vandor » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:47 pm

The factory manual says to undo the rear of the convertible top from the body before installing the hard top. The rest of the top frame, etc. can stay in place.
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Re: 1981 124 Spider with Pininfarina hardtop.

Post by fp55scca » Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:11 pm

vandor wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:47 pm
The factory manual says to undo the rear of the convertible top from the body before installing the hard top. The rest of the top frame, etc. can stay in place.
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--Csaba, I can see where that would work. Thanks!. The rear molding above the seat-back would already be removed, so it should be just a matter of 5 screws for the rear anchor bar, and a few more for the cable tensioners. Then reinstall the same for the ragtop...hmmmm.

--Doesn't seem very practical, but just curious which factory manual contains that info?! [lol]
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Re: 1981 124 Spider with Pininfarina hardtop.

Post by andy » Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:28 pm

Many years ago I had a hard top for my spider. Not the Pininfarina brand though. Cant recall the brand, plastic something or other, not smooth line.

It worked fine with the soft top kept in place. Was pretty nice to have the hard top for winter, though it was REALLY nice to be able drive without it once winter was behind me. Visibility was certainly reduced.
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Re: 1981 124 Spider with Pininfarina hardtop.

Post by vandor » Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:29 am

fp55scca wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:11 pm
--Doesn't seem very practical, but just curious which factory manual contains that info?! [lol]
It was something I found online, there must have been a manual for the hardtop. I can't find it on my home PC, so maybe I saved it to my work one.
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