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Re: what's max power 124 gearbox can handle?

Post by sonoramicommando » Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:54 pm

Well, that's the reality of it, I'd like to think all those 124s are stashed away in dry storage waiting to be restored but somehow I doubt it.
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Re: what's max power 124 gearbox can handle?

Post by SimcaBertone66 » Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:13 pm

I don't know who you are, but not fer nuthin, who do you think you are addressing on this forum.....with regards to how many "old" Fiat cars are collectively owned by the geezers here ? …. never to been to a FFO ? … have a great evening
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Re: what's max power 124 gearbox can handle?

Post by fp55scca » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:47 pm

sonoramicommando wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:52 pm
......The market for Fiat parts here is pretty slow I think - not many 124 era Fiats are around, I'd say they all rusted away.
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--Whoa Joe, I think you may have taken Sam's comment the wrong way? <lol> At least the way I read it, he was only saying there weren't many old Fiat around "his" area? Where are you located anyway Sam?
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Re: what's max power 124 gearbox can handle?

Post by sonoramicommando » Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:51 pm

Right Joe, I'm just gonna pretend you had a very bad day, still it's not nice to take it out on someone you hardly know.

Jim - I'm in Auckland, New Zealand. I'd better update my profile so people don't get the wrong idea.
As you know, we weren't blessed with tens of thousands of spiders but as far as twin-cams go, we got the coupes and sedans, 125, 131, 132, Ritmo/Strada etc - that said, not in great numbers, as obviously it was British manufacturers' stronghold back then. Now, the Japanese dominates here.
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Re: what's max power 124 gearbox can handle?

Post by fp55scca » Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:24 pm

--Yeah Sam, you are way down there! I'm surprised many Fiats got to you at all.....except for the incredible world-wide marketing Fiat did back in the day! We were spoiled with the Fiat Spider in North America, with 180,000 of the 200,000 coming to our shores; but, that reflected 18 years of production!! Extremely small production numbers really, considering that Mazda Miata sold over 400,000 first generation Miata's between 1989 and 1997! Hell, Mustang sold more than 400,000 in their first half year of production (1964 1/2)!

--Anyway Sam, you got the Fiat 132 in New Zealand, and the front spindles of those make a very nice upgrade to the Fiat Spider. So, if you should see any of those laying around...... :)
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Re: what's max power 124 gearbox can handle?

Post by sonoramicommando » Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:06 am

fp55scca wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:24 pm
--Yeah Sam, you are way down there! I'm surprised many Fiats got to you at all.....except for the incredible world-wide marketing Fiat did back in the day! We were spoiled with the Fiat Spider in North America, with 180,000 of the 200,000 coming to our shores; but, that reflected 18 years of production!! Extremely small production numbers really, considering that Mazda Miata sold over 400,000 first generation Miata's between 1989 and 1997! Hell, Mustang sold more than 400,000 in their first half year of production (1964 1/2)!

--Anyway Sam, you got the Fiat 132 in New Zealand, and the front spindles of those make a very nice upgrade to the Fiat Spider. So, if you should see any of those laying around...... :)
Are you looking for some? Or on your nice-to-have wish list? I'm sure there are some about.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-pa ... 9036ae20f0
I think 132 superseded 125 and there were some parts crossover between two models.
Most of the times you have to go through forums etc to actively ask for parts, as demand for parts for these cars aren't so great nowadays.
There are a couple of parts suppliers (new/nos or second hand) for these older models, but obviously costs more.
I think there is (or used to be) a regular contributor (or two) based in NZ on this forum - Steve was his name, I think - I myself have been out of the Fiat game for a few years. Here is an interesting (and quite amusing) forum based in NZ, https://oldschool.co.nz/ - there are a couple of Fiat owners there.
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Re: what's max power 124 gearbox can handle?

Post by SimcaBertone66 » Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:03 pm

Opps, that's how wars start …. sorry …. mi dispache …. welcome to Fiat geezer central...... and the gear reduction starter in my 124 race car, came from NZ, before they were available for Fiats in the US.
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Re: what's max power 124 gearbox can handle?

Post by sonoramicommando » Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:29 pm

No harm done Joe - it's all cool.
Was just thinking how I miss my old car - I wish I still had it.
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Re: what's max power 124 gearbox can handle?

Post by fp55scca » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:50 am

--Now that's what I like about Mirafiori! Well done boys!

--Sam, I looked in my notes for the gent's name that sent me the 132 axles, and couldn't find it. But then, it was only 18 years ago! I don't think the 125 and the 132 share the same front axles? Could easily be wrong, but I always thought the upgrade came with the 132.

--Talk about old geasers. I did find in my notes in that time frame (circa 2000) where Joe D. and I were exchanging emails on "performance upgrades for 124 Spider racecars".....oh my, how time does fly!
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Re: what's max power 124 gearbox can handle?

Post by sonoramicommando » Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:11 pm

I think that book by Phil Ward talks about the front suspension differences/interchangeability - I'll have to have a look.
I know 125 has different fronts to 124.
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