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Mystery Car - No FIAT Content

Post by Fiatz79 » Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:24 pm

This was sent by a friend. Trying to identify possible make and year. Pictures are from an old 8mm family film.
Any thoughts? Thanks!
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Post by rridge » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:26 pm

1947 Hudson Commodore:
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Post by Fiatz79 » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:40 pm

WOW! Thanks Richard!!!
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Re: Mystery Car - No FIAT Content

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Post by fp55scca » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:54 pm

--Well done Richard!!

--Oh my, does that bring back memories....and a reminder of age! :(

--I can remember cruising Atlantic Ave (the strip) in Virginia Beach, VA, (circa 1961), in a friend's 1947 Hudson. Seems like it had some kind of hydraulic clutch that you could either shift manually, or drive like and automatic.
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Post by rridge » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:28 pm

Like a lot of '47's the Hudson was a pre-war model put back into production. It featured a semi-automatic transmission with a vacuum operated clutch and servo actuated shift between second and third. The size of the car, the style and the 8mm film were the clues. The three piece rear window and the external trunk hinges were confirmation.

The reason its such an unrecognizable shape is that it was only in production for about 18 months. It was replaced by the much more familiar "step-down" Hudson's in 1948.
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Post by fp55scca » Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:30 pm

--Richard, I never noticed it before, but looks to me like the '49 Mercury took a few styling cues from the '48 Hudson Step Down! Who knew?
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Post by rridge » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:27 am

The late 40's were a time of rapid changes in the ways cars looked. The Hudson above fairly typical of the late '30's, high and boxy with separate front and rear fenders, and a residual running board look rather than rocker panels. Indeed there was no rock or curve top to bottom on the sides. The '48 Hudson knocked 18" off the height, much of that coming out of the greenhouse, and integrated the fenders.
The '49 Mercury followed the Hudson closely. The '49 Ford completed the transition by completely eliminating any hint of separate fender lines. Instead very clean simple lines ran front to back and the side had a simple curve top to bottom. Compare a '49 Ford to the bodies coming out of Pininfarina in the early '50's like the Lancia B20 and you will see the impact American stylists had on the post-war continent.
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Post by jseabolt » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:44 pm

My grandfather used to own a Hudson Jet. This was before I was born. He said this was the best car he ever owned. He said it's 6 cylinder engine got really good gas mileage.

He said it was smaller than a typical American car back in those days. At 15 feet long I don't see how.

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Post by fp55scca » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:22 pm

--Now I'm beginning to think there was collusion between Ford Motor Company and Hudson! This is 1953 Mercury:
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